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  • Started 6 months ago by ecoboss
  • Latest reply from DAVID URMSTON
  1. Been out of work for a few years due to ill-health, then when I tried to get back into the market I found at 50 it was not going to happen.

    All my experience in the property market from trade to (board level) didn't have a degree, so my business and life experience was all for nought lol.

    Well I'm here to prove that not all entrepreneurs are 20 something and I'd like to talk to others on this board about how they intend to become the new/old business builders of this new decade. Maybe members with specific skillsets might be interested in what I'm proposing but either way I wish everyone here all the best.

    I'm not quite sure if I'm posting this in the right place as this forum isn't laid out as I would expect.

    Regards.

    Posted 6 months ago #
  2. I assume you arrived here via Working Lunch, like I did, and I suspect a lot more will *smiles*

    Posted 6 months ago #
  3. Hi, Lord of the Teapot. What's the working lunch ?
    Have I missed out on something wonderful ?

    Ecoboss, what are you proposing ?

    I have BSc Information Systems, years of experience in Community Arts, using clay, video, music. My community arts web site - on line gallery - juke box is www.crackpots.org.uk

    Computing advice for small business and domestic users is at www.oxfordpcsolutions.co.uk

    Both these sites are under construction and info contained is not exhaustive.

    regards

    David Urmston
    Currently setting up a eco- Housing Co-Op in Oxford.

    Posted 5 months ago #
  4. Yes like you I did find the site via Working Lunch, what are you thinking about doing?

    Posted 5 months ago #
  5. Hello David, Working Lunch is a BBC programme well worth a watch .

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/working_lunch/default.stm

    My concept; green money/energy savings products for UK consumers, also as an ex builder I'm interested in energy efficient homes.

    Would like to hear more about your eco housing project.

    This site is still in its infancy I'm afraid and the whole forum is not very structured, getting alerts of replies to your strings for instance should at very least be a default setting. You can contact me at mac@e40.co.uk if you want to talk.

    * I hope this site does well but it needs a lot of work, I'd be happy to help where I could but don't know who to even ask?

    Regards, Jim.

    PS: I did try to add some html coding so the page/link would open another browser and not take anyone away from this page but this site just doesnt seem to wamt it

    Posted 5 months ago #
  6. Interest in your project as I was offered a large land parcel down here in Surrey, my idea was to build 12 large hi-end but exec eco houses, each on half an acre but didnt have the cash to see it through.

    Would mind finding some backers for similar who would invest, that outcome percentage profits, or their own a classic house plus small profits.

    Actually through estate agents and other sources get offered a lot of interesting lots but after investing in a technology company which cost me my life savings its so frustrating. - Anyway I wont rant too much about that lol.

    Maybe we could bounce some ideas of each other, and for anyone else looking in, join in, or contact me if you wish.

    Jim.

    Posted 5 months ago #
  7. Hi Jim (ecoboss,

    Posted 4 months ago #
  8. Hi Jim (ecoboss),
    Sorry it has taken me so long to reply.

    You sound as if you are better placed than myself to actually achieve something, as there is some land available and already earmarked for house construction. In Oxford finding suitable building land is difficult and it is also very expensive when you find it.

    My approach is to set up a Housing Co-Operative here in Oxford. The project has two purposes.

    Firstly to provide eco Social Housing. I hope to move into a Co-Op owned house within two years and cut my domestic rent by half, while providing a dwelling which is superior in all aspects to this ex-council house.

    Secondly, I expect to create space in which to work - through the housing Co-Op, somewhere I can develop a range of eco products and services that I have in mind. This will give me a low business rent, close to where I live - BUT NOT in my home, removing transport to work costs and travelling time. Giving me somewhere to go to get away from the business.

    At this time everything is still in the research and planning stage, but it is looking favourable for a launch early this year 2010. Particularly, as I have been talking with people from Co-Operative Futures and Co-Operative & Community Finance, who assure me that 100% finance is available jointly through the Co-Operative Society and Triodos Bank. 110% for the right Business Plan.

    The strategy is to build approx 12 mid priced, wooden, 'eco' dwellings, ranging from singles to 4 bedroom properties. Then sell 6 to reduce the loan dramatically or completely.

    I plan to set up the Housing Co-Op, build the houses as a project managed via Oxford PC Solutions, a private company, limited by guarantee. There are other ways to do this, but each rely on the business having more than one member of staff and at the moment ......

    If things change and others want to get involved with management, I'll review the situation as and when. A workers Co-Op would be ideal, but without actual workers, I am left to do everything. Obviously I need to protect myself, so a Limited Company has many advantages over being a Sole trader.

    This is a particularly important issue as doing it this way I can retain money in the company, useful for growth. I am stuck in the private rented sector in Oxford and it is a real bind starting to earn money as the City Council take 64% of my Gross Income off my Housing Benefit Entitlement if I am a Sole Trader.

    It's a slightly better option as an employee of a company as they will deduct 64% of my Net Income from my Housing Benefit Entitlement. As the property rents are so high in Oxford, you can see that one needs to earn a considerable amount in order to pay the whole rent, £1100 per cal month and still have any money to spare.

    My biggest concern is that the Housing Benefit people will not understand that a Social Enterprise doesn't set out to make a profit for the share holders.

    Second big concern is that unless I earn some money some other way, (through selling my IT and Business skills, etc), in the short term, there will be nothing in my wage packet until finance for admin wages has become a reality.

    I could go into more details about products and services, but this is still pipe line stuff for the Business Plan. This will require space to store materials, fabricate stuff, as well as the staff to do the work. So getting the Housing Co-Op up and running is the first objective. If the project is a success, I hope Oxford PC Solutions will initiate a similar eco Build project, offering some of the properties for sale to the public and at discount to Social Landlords.

    I hope that gives you a clear picture of my hopes.
    How about your project ?
    What do you have in mind ?

    My own eMail address is david@oxfordpcsolutions.co.uk
    if you'd like to contact me other than via this forum.

    Regards David Urmston

    Posted 4 months ago #

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